PT5004 is an automatic watch movement currently used in several no-date watches carried by Watchdives. Search demand around the calibre is already split across multiple product pages, so this guide brings the available movement information and current PT5004 watch options into one place.
The most important distinction for current Watchdives listings is simple: PT5004 is used for no-date configurations, while some related models use PT5000 for versions with a date display. Exact finished-watch specifications still depend on the watch built around the movement.
What Is the PT5004 Movement?
PT5004 is an automatic mechanical movement used in current watches from Cronos, Octopus Kraken, Watchdives and other brands. In current product listings checked for this guide, PT5004 is used in no-date configurations.
A current Phorcydes specification lists the PT5004 as a no-date automatic movement running at 28,800 beats per hour / 4 Hz and describes its adjustment as having no ghost-date position. We did not locate a public factory technical sheet for PT5004, so those frequency and crown-behavior details should be treated as current watch-brand specifications rather than a manufacturer datasheet.
For the published reference, see the Phorcydes PT5004 specification.
PT5004 vs PT5000: What Is the Practical Difference?
On current Watchdives listings, the clearest practical difference is the date configuration. The Watchdives WD1968 uses PT5004 for the no-date version and PT5000 for the date version.
That does not mean every specification of the two movements should be assumed identical. When choosing a watch, use the exact movement and feature description on that product page rather than treating PT5004 as simply a renamed PT5000.
Does PT5004 Have a Date?
The current PT5004 watches checked for this guide are no-date designs. That includes the Watchdives WD1968 no-date configuration and current PT5004 listings from Cronos and Octopus Kraken.
If a date display matters to you, check the exact model and variant. Some watches offer a PT5000 date version alongside a PT5004 no-date version, while others are sold only with PT5004.
How Fast Does PT5004 Run?
Phorcydes currently publishes a PT5004 specification of 28,800 beats per hour, or 4 Hz. A higher beat rate changes the movement's seconds-hand stepping frequency, but it does not by itself determine the finished watch's accuracy, durability or service interval.
Those attributes depend on regulation, assembly, lubrication, case design, shock exposure and service history as well as the movement architecture.
Current PT5004 Watches at Watchdives
Cronos L6032 — 36mm Everyday Automatic
The Cronos L6032 uses the PT5004 in a compact 36mm stainless-steel case. The current listing specifies a 43.4mm lug-to-lug length, 10.85mm thickness, sapphire crystal, BGW9 lume and 100m water resistance.
Choose it if you want the PT5004 in a smaller everyday format rather than a larger dive-watch case.
Octopus Kraken OCT0028 — 37mm Vintage-Style Diver
The Octopus Kraken OCT0028 pairs PT5004 with a 37mm stainless-steel case, top-hat sapphire crystal, aluminum bezel, OTF clasp and stated 200m water resistance.
Its current specification lists a 47mm lug-to-lug length and 12.4mm total thickness including the crystal.
Octopus Kraken OCT0029 — 37mm PT5004 Diver
The Octopus Kraken OCT0029 is another current 37mm PT5004 option. Its current listing likewise specifies sapphire crystal, aluminum bezel, stainless-steel bracelet, OTF clasp and 200m water resistance.
Always compare the selected dial, bezel and current variant details on the product page rather than assuming OCT0028 and OCT0029 are identical.
Watchdives WD1968 — PT5004 No-Date or PT5000 Date
The Watchdives WD1968 is the clearest direct comparison between the two movement options. The current listing specifies PT5004 for the no-date version and PT5000 for the date version.
The WD1968 uses a stainless-steel case, sapphire crystal, fully luminous ceramic bezel and stated 300m water resistance. The movement choice is therefore only one part of the watch's overall specification.
Which PT5004 Watch Should You Choose?
| Model | Case / format | Useful distinction |
|---|---|---|
| Cronos L6032 | 36mm steel everyday watch | Most compact option in this group |
| Octopus OCT0028 | 37mm steel diver | Vintage-style diver with top-hat sapphire |
| Octopus OCT0029 | 37mm steel diver | Alternative Octopus PT5004 configuration |
| Watchdives WD1968 | Large professional-style diver | Direct no-date PT5004 vs date PT5000 choice |
Start with case size and intended use, then use the movement choice to refine the shortlist. A compact 36mm everyday watch and a 300m professional-style diver can share PT5004 while wearing and functioning very differently.
PT5004 Buying Checklist
- Date or no date: current PT5004 listings checked here are no-date configurations.
- Case size: compare diameter, lug-to-lug length and total thickness.
- Crystal: current models use sapphire, but shape and AR treatment vary.
- Water resistance: this is a finished-watch specification, not a movement property.
- Bracelet or strap: the same movement can appear in very different watch formats.
- Current stock: verify the exact variant before ordering.
Frequently Asked Questions
Is PT5004 automatic?
Yes. Current watch listings checked for this guide describe PT5004 as an automatic mechanical movement.
Is PT5004 a no-date movement?
Current PT5004 implementations checked here are no-date configurations. Watchdives WD1968 explicitly uses PT5004 for its no-date version and PT5000 for the date version.
Does PT5004 have a ghost date position?
A current Phorcydes specification describes its PT5004 implementation as having no date display and no ghost-date position during adjustment. Because a public PT5004 factory technical sheet was not located, treat this as a current brand-published specification rather than a universal factory claim.
Is PT5004 4 Hz?
Phorcydes currently publishes 28,800 bph / 4 Hz for PT5004. Again, that is a current watch-brand specification; check any future manufacturer documentation or the individual watch listing when exact movement data is essential.
Is PT5004 better than PT5000?
There is no useful universal answer from the information currently available. The main verified distinction in Watchdives' WD1968 listing is no-date PT5004 versus date PT5000. Choose based on the watch, feature set and date preference rather than the calibre number alone.
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